Cave To The Cross Apologetics

Two Christians who enjoy reading and discussing philosophy do the heavy lifting. Each episode is a discussion on a book or article on philosophy, theology, or similar subject. They discuss and break down the subject material and present it in each episode. You may have wanted to read or had some interest but were intimated by the material. Join Patrick and Tony in their book discussion; breaking it down – sometimes chapter by chapter.

To find out why we are called “Cave To The Cross Apologetics” check out our blog posts – here.

Patrick & Tony

Patrick and Tony have been friends since 2005 and have met regularly since 2012 for book discussions. A continuous study of presuppositional apologetics began during that first meeting and hasn’t really stopped. Together they have read books from those in the Christian apologetic camp, atheists writing against the faith, and various philosophers.

Tony

Tony has graduate degrees from Western Michigan University and Grand Rapids Theology Seminary.  He earned his PhD in Philosophy of Science from Michigan State University.  He has been married to Verma for 40 years and has five adult children.  When he is not doing philosophy he is spending time with his six grandchildren.

Patrick

Patrick has a Bachelor of Science from Western Michigan University (Kalamazoo, MI) where he minored in Philosophy. As a result of being mentored by Tony since 2005, his interest in philosophy and apologetics grew. Some of his favorite teachers are John Calvin, Dr. James White, Dr. Jason Lisle, Dr. Alvin Plantiga, Dr. Greg Bahnsen, and Dr. Gary Habermas just to name a few.